Monday, 7 May 2012

I'm dumping this here to get it out of my brain


I'm trying to find the right balance between using spacey terminology and being obnoxious- like Guard vs. Legion? There's other words that have Roman basis to mean roughly the same thing, an army. Cohortes. Hastati (Hastatus). Phalanx. We need to get down a Joss Whedon amount of culture meshing.

I'm not a Roman expert, and I'm not sure how much you guys know about their whole deal, so I'll lay down the skinny- feel free, if you know all this (or don't find it interesting or important, there's no harm in that), to ignore it. I find it good to riff this stuff aloud, though, and know stuff gets better when you get feedback.

The Legion were required to be free men, and you were respected for having done your stint in it. It's turn ons included being obnoxiously large, conquering countries in wars that lasted for decades at a time, taking slaves and not being in Rome. And the thing of that was, it meant a lot of general mayhem in the capitol, because not enough of these guys were back to toe the line for people. I'm not talking casual theft, here, either; Rome, before they got their stuff together, was plagued with riots, mobs, home invasion. Gangs roamed the streets just tearing things up willy nilly; not a good place to be in.

So that's when the Vigiles came in. That's 'Watchmen' in latin. They started out as a little group of slaves sent out by the richer folk at night to stop things getting trashed, the Triumviri Nocturni. I'm not a latin buff, but the best I can make of the translation of that is 'Night-time Group of Officials Who Share Equal Power'. They didn't really do much besides protect their master's stuff, a private security force that were a sort of guard/fireman/alarm system hybrid. So they evolved (with a bit of nudging from the state) into what'd become the crux of the capitol- The Cohortes Vigilum, The Vigiles, the Spartoli, after the little buckets that they carried to, I assume, sort of ineffectively look like they were doing something to combat that massive fuck-off fires that would sometimes take ahold of Rome (they twigged on about germs pretty fast, but apparently not building furnaces in wooden houses). They were pretty similar to what we have today as a modern force- a Cohort of about 80 men would patrol their administrative area at night and beat the loving shit out of any burglars, run away slaves and would be mobs. I am joking, they weren't like our guys at all, because they also sometimes put out fires. And, I kid you not, one of their biggest deals was guarding the public baths at night. I am not sure from what, or why, but I am choosing to trust this fact blindly.

This is a lot of words, but I promise I'm going somewhere with this. Probably. I wish I hadn't promised, that was a stupid thing to do, now I actually have to make a point.

Things weren't breezey between the Vigiles and the Legion. Not's to say that I'm sure some weren't amiable, but the Vigiles weren't under the same system as their martial brothers. If push came to shove, though, the Vigiles tended to be faithful to Rome, while the Legion was faithful to the Emperor. The Vigiles were not free men, not until right at the very end, when citizenship after a certain length of service was granted as a 'you didn't die! :D!' bonus.

SO

There's been a war- the Colluctation (IT'S A WORD, I'M USING IT), the Strife, the Brigue, the Sedition. I think Liz has it nailed, there- it needs to be distant and unspecified. That's not to say we shouldn't have a more detailed explanation for it (especially if it'll help write plot better, I'm all for that, though I tend to get bogged down by details as this billion word essay on what we're calling out police force is probably telling you), but since it's not plot integral it'll be more effective just being hinted at, this ominous, bank breaking war.

I see direct parallels between Rome's struggles and what we're aiming for- they were dirt poor, by the end. By which I mean the plebeians were, the streets torn to hell as a result of generations of conquering that had no direct effect on the guys that just wanted to eat. The Vigiles were not entirely accepted, but necessary, and even when the army was limping around it was them that gots the glory. I think 4-10 years is a good amount of time for the war to have passed? Long enough that things like rationing, black markets, war wounds are still fresh, but things have mostly settled back down.

ALSO. League of Misopolemiacs. Apparently that means 'to have a fear of strife'. MISOPOLEMIACS.

There's more, but it gradually gets more incoherent as 1a.m approached.  

7 comments:

  1. I AM INSPIRED

    I am wary of being TOO Roman - I guess this is just me, but it makes me vaguely uncomfortable when cultures are just shifted because they are cool with no reason for it. I'd prefer it to be simply that it's come back into fashion or its set in future Rome and they've really built upon history (I'm personally wary of this because I don't know a damn thing about Rome or its history, but that's YOUR job, hahahAHAHA)

    Some parallels are way cool and it'll give our game a unique flavour. I like it. KEEP DOING THIS.

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    1. yES i agree, this is just coming from watching too much Logan's Run, I think? I feel like I need to be honest with you; Romanesque is a very 70's type of futurism.

      AND I CAN'T STOP DOING THIS

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  2. This is awesome and inspiring, definitely keep posting. What sort of weapons are they using in the future, and how does the war tie in to the mass production of cyborgs?

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    1. I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS but I would love to hear yours

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    2. Huh, that's actually a hell of a lot to think about. Well hypothetically, nuclear weapons are gone - maybe one went off somewhere and it created global outrage, the devastation was so horrific that every country in the world dismantled their weapons and agreed to keep their conflicts within a reasonable scope. Governments also pumped a shitload of cash into nano-technology to help fight the numerous health problems that resulted from the catastrophe. Inevitably as we were able to increase health and longevity through nano technology, we were also able to create powerful weapons. After all this, the popularity of going to war seriously diminished, I mean front line soldiers getting eaten alive by tiny robots? Not cool. Meanwhile scientists are still working on computers for the same reasons they always worked on computers - and they've progressed rather a lot, so it's no biggy to start developing androids to replace people in the war. We have new materials in the future, and androids can cope with nanobot swarms. As their "brain" is stored elsewhere, they just remote control an artificial body and clear out an area until it's safe to call in the humans. If this takes more than one body, no real harm done. This makes nano-weapons less effective which generally increases morale. Soon it became common practice to issue each human a PPA (personal protection android) in all combat situations. That's not to say it was necessarily safe for people - PPA's could originally only protect people from things they were programmed to recognise. The best way to combat PPA's was innovation. Stealth technology is a hell of a lot better in the future and even after nano-weapons decreased in popularity it was never unheard of for solders to get ripped up by teleportation beams, melted by lasers, suckered into some trap hidden by holographic shrubbery, ambushed by other soldiers in invisibility suits, etc. Combat methods were always changing, so it was in everyone's interest to work on programming "common sense" into the androids to avoid having to upgrade them every time a new sort of trap came out.

      Meanwhile back in the not-war-zone areas of the planet, businesses and organisations are catching on to the whole positive effects of having a PPA and are starting to bring out their own specialised models for various positions. They can not only do certain jobs just as well as people, but can also form real meaningful relationships. (Particularly those from the adopt-a-bot service, and the controversial designer-spouse industry.) Gradually it's becoming accepted that they're part of society but some people aren't so welcoming which is holding back progress a little. PPA's are consequently a lot more advanced than non-combat-droids.

      That was just the first idea off the top of my head, feel free to use, dismiss, ignore, whatever. In any event it may need research to check out whether any of that is even possible - especially the bit about "stopping nano bots".

      Oh, why they made robots humanoid - probably the same reason they make video game characters humanoid even when you're playing as an entirely different species - people seem to think that people prefer stuff that looks like other people. Also there's always been a trend in the android industry to create humanoid androids so it's probably going to stay that way. Not every bot looks like a person though, ones designed for a job can look like whatever's practical.

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  3. Cyborgs? I MEANT TO SAY ANDROIDS!

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  4. Personal Protection Android - I LOVE IT. I love the androids who love to love.

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